my guest today is the bachelor franchise
veteran Chris Bukowski who also happens to be very much involved in the
cryptocurrency and Bitcoin community Chris started his bachelor career back
in 2012 he retired in 2015 and came back in 2019 to the bachelor in paradise and
ended up getting engaged to Katie Morton but believe it or not there is more into
Chris than just a record-breaking bachelor franchise returnee I know many
of you guys are dying to know about the status of Chris’s relationship with
Katie why they’re not posting Instagram pictures together as often whether or
not the breakup rumors are true and whether we’ll see Chris back on The
Bachelor franchise again my name is Kiana Danial I’m the founder of the
Invest Diva Movement and the author of a bunch of books in the field of investing
and wealth and growing your money and as a bachelor top fan I’m dying to know
the answers to all these – but I’m gonna pull a Chris Harrison here Chris
Bukowski and I are first going to talk about his foray into entrepreneurship
I’m gonna dig in the real reason why who went on The Bachelor back in 2012 how he
got involved in Bitcoin and where he sees the community going and then we’ll
get to the most dramatic episode of Diva on the block with all the hot juicy
bachelor stuff I’ll be grilling Chris to get the truth about him and Katie out if
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go say hi to Chris and let’s rock the block! We’ve got Chris Bukowski on Diva the Block and I know
everyone who’s just watching is dying to know everything about the bachelor your
retirement your wait man you came back your you’ve you had recurring appearance
for five times right and everybody’s dying to know what’s your relation so
status where are you where you stand with Katie and don’t get me wrong I’m
dying to know it too I’m like one of the biggest bachelor fans ever and my
husband hates it so this is kind of my way to go I’m into it but we’re gonna
get into other things first and I’m gonna pull it Chris Harrison we’re gonna
hook you so that you stay until the end and find out all about the show but
there’s a lot more into you than the bachelor like you’re an actual a full-on
entrepreneur yeah and you’re now invested in cryptocurrencies so it was
just really emergent this is super fascinating so can you tell us Chris
first of all thank you so much for your time for being on the show and tell us
where did it all start from a crypto spider there’s a business side in
general let’s um let’s go from the business side because it looks like they
they were kind of parallel your bachelor appear appearance and your business so
we can empower each other so how did it happen I was um I was go for hospitality
and all that stuff and I’ve always been interested in a hospitality space and I
went on the show for the first time in 2012 and I’ve always wanted my own
restaurant so before I actually got casted for the show I was in the process
of opening up my first record Arlington Virginia and just worked out perfectly
that I’ll start Dells publicity from you know the show airing and the restaurant
opening so it all kind of meshed together and was able to get some I mean
the place was packed you know of course the show is airing and the doors are
open and is that the reason why a lot of the contest and
actually go on the show no it was way different back then I mean this was in
2012 Oh for me I was I was you know I was 25 at
that point so it’s now it’s like there’s the whole social media aspect or you
know people are making money from social media which way easier than actually
starting a real business so so for me I was always ambitious and want to open my
own restaurant I just kind of obviously had helped a lot from a marketing side
and getting bodies in the door to have the publicity from the show so yeah I
would say I would say intentions were a lot more true that day because money
wasn’t as easy to make you know from your time on the show as it is now so I
think you had a lot of people coming up show out just for you know the gram
following and to monetize their you know right I mean I was telling my husband
had I not been married when I started watching the show I would have gone on
the back so it would have been great for my business
Oh a hundred percent I mean hunger is that I mean it’s just the funnel people
you know to drive to different you know streams you know there’s a podcast or
any kind of business that you know right absolutely so then you went and you did
2012 you did season three then they did season 8 and but in the meantime you
were also getting into different businesses right yeah so you know I
opened up from the first restaurant we opened up two more and the DC airports
so that was my main focus and you know we’re that time I do my consulting work
for a lot of startups invested a little bit here and there and then 2016 is when
I got into Bitcoin and it was my luck but you know sometimes gotta be lucky to
get into things and actually invest in 2016 before it started going up yeah so
I had you know I got in when it was at about $450 so I got pretty pretty early
and luckily enough I didn’t know what I was doing at the I you know swing
Bitcoin so I couldn’t figure out I remember I had on bit panda which was a
wallet and I couldn’t really figure out how to get it off I was trying to cash
it all out because you know someone paid me in Bitcoin
I have no idea what this is so they kind of got obsessed I learned you know about
everything and I left it all within there would be it would be worth a lot
more but no it’s you know it was kind of just the start of me you know getting
extremely interested in Bitcoin and then you know I kind of pour over 2000 is
when I got into Bitcoin as well which is weird cuz you’re like oh my god you
wrote a book about Bitcoin and you just got into 2016 and it’s true because in
2011 I heard about Bitcoin but I was like oh no this is way too risky for me
I don’t want to hear anything about it then I started so this company actually
paid me to do research and analysis about Bitcoin and I was like oh wait oh
this is cool so that is – any sticks you and I started getting into it so what
was somebody paid you in Bitcoin and you learn more about it what was the
obsession what was the trigger well so I of course I knew about Bitcoin but of
course it had kind of a you know a reputation of it being you know used for
black market stuff you know all it never really had anything
wait did you buy a black market thing with Bitcoin I haven’t done that but no
I see how some was like can I tell you a Bitcoin I’m like sure why not
so you know I sit there and you know just learning about how to you know get
a digital wallet and how did you know take it off a wallet how to turn it into
you know cash which you know I didn’t do half of it but I just kind of got so
interested in it and then you know went down this black hole of just research
and you know learning about it and then you know talk to my friends about it and
you know asking questions about it and I’ve been kind of obsessed with it ever
since so you know I’ve definitely been
involved in the space and um I’m involved a little little things here and
there and you know invest mostly mostly just strictly in Bitcoin and you know
some other projects but yeah I love the community it’s it’s very different it’s different and it’s a lot different than
most of the stuff that I’ve been involved in so it’s kind of interesting
for me so is it only Bitcoin or are you also in
and other kind of cryptocurrencies as well yes oh no of course during 2017
bull market you know I started getting its all coins and you know everyone made
a ton of money there I you know it’s kind of hard to know I almost felt like
I was moving the market and I was like oh you’re announcing that you’re buying
no I wouldn’t never I wouldn’t do that I didn’t do that I just it just felt like
it was so easy because you would put you know thousand dollars in something and
then you know it’s all and you know that I wasn’t really researching much about
the project cuz you know everything was awesome in theory back then with always
crazy market cast evaluations which was out of control
but there were some projects I was interested and I you know I wrote I see
X ship all the way to the top I’m sure you’re familiar with icon there Korean
projects and wrote it all the way down to what they’re doing over there track
so holding on though still holding on suits you that one so I have my whole
entire Bitcoin IP X and the new Voyager coin which used the ethos so I use a lot
of I use their exchange for any purchasing right now for Bitcoin and
they just repented to vgx switches which is now traded as VGX so right now you
actually have a start you you’re on board of advisors for Empire hotels that
actually accept crypto is that correct yep yes yeah how did that happen and is
it again only Bitcoin are you doing some other cryptocurrencies as well yes so
you know with with all these like how does my eyes on you know a lot of these
people reached out to me because I have a bit of a following and I’m interested
obviously in crypto so and I have the hospitality background and Empire was
you know it’s a hotel app you know built on the blockchain and except you know
crypto so yeah I know it accepts more more
outside of just Bitcoin so yeah you know I think that’s so that’s the goal is to
is to find a use case for all these coins you know especially the
boring because I think that’s what that’s what actually drives the price
off is if people are using it it seems like everyone just holds on to it oh
yeah so bitcoin is the granddaddy everybody loves it but tell me a little
bit more about empire because I’m kind of curious so what hotels are included
in this I can any hotel actually get involved in the apart app yeah no
absolutely a lot of this is most of us international right now but yeah anyone
its kind of just to help the the check-in process and and just to kind of
streamline from checking in to checking outs and kind of getting rewards for for
using day-out all right okay so yes a Bitcoin as you
were saying is the one that everybody loves and everybody’s holding so what do
you think and I know like you are mainly on the side of actually investing and
using cryptocurrencies so for you use case it should be super important so why
not – why not other payment cryptocurrencies what why aren’t
interesting in those I think I’ll get more interested when you know some of
these projects you know establish a use for a lot of these coins I think there’s
like a lot of projects out there we learned the hard way you know in the
bear market after 2017 is that a lot of these projects that have raised so much
money no one’s really been doing anything I think a lot of crypto
projects struggle when it comes to branding and to marketing properly I
think a lot of these products are built strongly on the back end but the front
end looks like something you wouldn’t put a penny into so there’s some crypto
advocates behind like for example we got Charles Hoskinson advocating for Cardano
then we got Roger over both of whom actually we’re my guests and Eva Eva on
the block so Roger over in specific and I wanted to ask you I’m not sure if it’s
a Bitcoin cash so he is like okay Bitcoin cache works Bitcoin doesn’t and
he he tries his best to do the sales and the push in the marketing and I mean he
actually gave me some becoming cash live as I oh look how easy it was all yeah it
is kind of easy so anything like the major main thing when it comes to
cryptocurrencies acceptance is the leadership and the marketing as
opposed to the actual use usability and low costs comes the trust – it’s like
you know I’m sure a lot of these coins and these projects have use cases but
it’s like do you trust it you know you know there’s all these dollars being put
into things but if it doesn’t look friendly and it’s not user friendly it’s
a lot of people aren’t gonna use it I know I won’t I’m buddy and like you know
there could be projects that look great on the front end there’s nothing around
the back end so obviously I know I think 98% of the things are really where they
need to be I think they’re trying but I think we’re still years away from a lot
of these projects you know having extra co use right and the fact the matter of
the fact is Bitcoin is the only one that like you can’t print more of other the
other projects are kind of like venture capitals trying to print their own money
whereas Bitcoin can actually compete with US dollar because it’s it’s it’s
different it’s completely different there’s nobody know yeah yeah that’s the
way I see I mean I constantly add to Bitcoin even if every week if it’s a
couple hundred dollars there I look at it as more of a long-term investments so
far so good and so I just keep adding I have to put a disclaimer here none of
the things viewers at home that we’re suggesting here our investing advice
these are just opinion we are only expressing our opinion about the Marquez
and I’m at the same boat with you and back in 2017 mm when I was writing the
book I became very interested and some projects like ripple and ethereum and
they were interesting and I was I had a very diversified portfolio that I’m
still holding on to but after that in the past year it’s been like you know
what marketing it’s like the US dollar so why do people trust the US dollar
it’s because of the marketing behind it otherwise the paper does not have any
value other than the research that is conveying and I feel like the same goes
with Bitcoin because people may not have heard of cryptocurrency but they have
heard of Bitcoin so that is how valuable the brand name
of Bitcoin is and that is the reason why I believe even if it’s not really there
technologically according to a lot of the people in the field at least it has
the branding so what is next for you so you are involved in so many different
things and Bitcoin is kind of the center of it but you also have a dating app
you’re a have a dating app or you an advice yes the dating app is sold sold
overseas the catch I was about with that a few years ago right now outside of my
restaurants on stuff I have digital agency that we we focus a lot on what
designed app design and development search engine marketing all that stuff
based out of Monica too so that’s probably my main focus right now which
was you know kind of started as a hobby and kind of turned into a business which
is pretty cool and so yeah all right so I’m gonna now draw the line and get back
to the bachelor is the reason why you and Katie don’t post that many photos
together is because they’re super busy or something else is going on and then
we gotta in the vaccine like to keep things kind of private obviously it’s
weird to say that since we met on such a public platform but you know it’s
there’s a lot of stuff that can deter you even if you try to ignore some of
the noise you know well public notoriety so you know we just trying to kind of
focus in on our relationship rather than you know throwing it every every one
brief thing out there you know if I want to have an opinion about so you know
that was kind of actually it’s really helpful for us to kind of focus in on
ourselves you know there’s a relationship as well the thing is I can
only imagine like I go to Thanksgiving dinner with my family and they say if
they say something with like we get to know like your husband said this that
way and that triggers me and wigan we get into a huge fight afterwards just
for one sentence or someone I can only imagine like how social media can just
like you know you can get you can get triggered oh look who said this about
you and it’s brutal it’s I mean people are people are
they’re mean before they’re not you know unfortunately especially easy
it’s super easy and I mean I can’t cuz I’m starting to taste to get a taste of
it like people like going pretending to be me or saying bad things about me and
I’m like how do people in reality we do it like I I can’t understand you guys do
it because it’s just well I wouldn’t be able to cope well I mean I think at one
point you just like start blocking you start to yeah like I’ve done it for so
long so it’s easier for me exactly so you know for Katy you notice her kind of
first time around with all those publicity and stuff so stuff you take
even you know you’ll never meet these people but any negativity about yourself
I mean it hurts to read stuff like that or you know about yourself your family
or you know your friend it’s just tough to be regardless if you never if
someone’s not saying it to your face you know right and the fact is I feel like
people who watch TV sometimes they forget that you are real people and it’s
you are a real person and here you are like you’re real you’re here in your real feelings so ok you and Katie are
fine can we is it safe to say that though
because yeah we’re good we’re good we’re is e and we have you know total
different career so and I travel a lot she’s out in LA and like currently I’m
in Chicago so I’m all over the place alright oh my god so a long distance to
it and that will make things even more complicated and and will we see you
again in any of Never Say Never you know yeah no it’s you know there’s always
something kind of pulls me back you know because there there’s a lot of good that
comes from it a lot of experiences unbelievable and obviously there’s a lot
of bad that comes from it too but it just kind of became part my life I
literally good at the whole this whole decade you know from 2012 till 2019 it’s
a whole decade of TV and you know it’s fun I wouldn’t change it I wouldn’t
change it at all but it’s I think it’s time to you know be done with are there any other bachelor franchise
members who are into crypto or like finance at all yeah definitely guys in
finance some item decrypt it was funny because you know when we’re filming
Paradise we don’t have our phones or news or TV or any of that so I think
when I love for Paradise in early June Bitcoin was around I think 6k and while
I was while I was gone the whole Libre theme came out and Bitcoin kind of
pumped up to 12 grand so I was asking you know one of the handlers who had the
phone every morning for Bitcoin press and it was going up like every day I was
like holy crap this is great you know I’m filming the show making money
bitcoins gonna things are awesome yeah so maybe I should go back in the show so
we can get big coin back up – I know no but twelve thousand no no no we want a
lot higher a lot higher I think and the next year will be will be much higher so
what is your anticipation when it comes to Bitcoin you know I think we’re gonna
I think it’s definitely gonna you know as you said supply you know we have
happening coming next year I think leading up to it I think we’ll see you
definitely a price rise I don’t think we’ll ever see this alt market we saw in
2017 but you know I’m Pacific coin going up that’s for all the values that and so
I’m not gonna make any predictions but I could see you know a 3/4 X from from
here right okay so that’s that is some
heartwarming forecasts from Chris Bukowski right over here not official
just a regular guy with hopes and dreams or a regular guy with power though
because when you say this people are gonna be watching like right now you’re
accessing a whole different audience with crypto like we have people who are
bachelor nation fans and are also like oh let me see what’s Chris talking about
what is this Bitcoin so you might actually be able to create a whole
movement around Bitcoin so definitely know I talk about much as I can I’m in
this group I just joined a few my buddies started it’s called stim stocked
and we just talk crypto and and stocks and everything just all day it’s it’s a
great community and we’re adding more and more people to it every day and I’m
I talk about Bitcoin like I love this like I’d rather do this than might do an
interview with you know Us Weekly or you know about reality TV yeah this is
amazing I can write I mean so and that’s the reason why I created this show
anyway because like you can get the problem with anything serious like
finance or crypto is that people who talk about it they try to talk about it
in a very non fun way and that was a turn-off for me when I got a gun onto
Wall Street that’s the reason why I started investing was because I was like
okay this needs to be fine this needs to be everyday talk cuz money is just this
is your everyday life anyway and that’s why we created this show leave on the
blog just chat with people and see what they think and who are these people who
are talking about bit coin and crypto so yeah I’m really hopeful for this
interview to gain a lot of energy of a lot of people who are watching bachelor
and bachelorette eyes I’m like hey Chris isn’t decrypting maybe I should go find
out about it so that should be cool again thank you so much Chris for
joining us and people at home I really really hope that you enjoyed this
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follow Chris on social media we have his Twitter up on his head I believe too
handle and Instagram and I believe you’re all over the place I think people
know how do you find how to find Joe anyway thank you but again you thank you
so much for joining and I’ll see you again to the next episode of the Avaya
black thank you I asked my guests to make a silly face
so we can use for the amazing do it do it
so which to my silly I don’t even know my silly face is all right I’ll do it
Freddie oh that’s the best little face that that’s a nice sign silly face hey
hold on Rick way the correct way to pronounce your last name is Bukovsky
that’s how you say it in Polish that’s actually really good
yeah it’s Bukowski you are polish yeah III went to : nice I had one of my
ex-boyfriends with Polish these people well I understand it pretty well I’m
first-generation so most of my family speaks to it but I’m like kind of where
I’m calling as a couponer Oh sod in Poland so I went to miss hua Vistula
which is southern point as well is that like close where you are yeah close yeah
oh wow very cool all right so and I actually know one of
the hardest words to pronounce in Polish it’s the whole Shh what does that mean
it means cockroach or something but it’s apparently one of the hardest it’s a
good one to know ina is very important